Please identify this engine

[M Kerkvliet]

I need help identifying this engine. Anyone? Tanks look like Advance or Aultman Taylor... Colors like Buffalo Pitts...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s317/mbkerk/smallsteam-1.jpg

[GaarScott]

Mark,

My guess is it is an Altman&Taylor...but not 100%. My guess would be a 20 to a 25hp size...leaning towards a 20hp engine though.

Lawrence

[Colin]

Yes i would say is a 20HP A-T. ;) pretty much like Marks 25 In ND other than narrower wheels. 25s are in pretty short supply. they were good engines.

[mrnewway]

Mark: I just have to ask the question, will this be your new ride for 2008?
If so looks good and it loks like it has a very large whistle lots of noise.
Jim out West:)

[M Kerkvliet]

This picture was posted on another site I spend some time on, and someone who knows my history with steam thought I would know what it was. I did not, but I knew where to look! He later found some more pictures (smokebox door), and it is indeed at Aultman Taylor engine. I passed along the information anyway.

[20 Reeves Highwheeler]

Mark,
Common "Ear marks" (E-I-E-I-O talk) of a later style Aultman-Taylor such as this one are the "dog leg" flywheel spokes and they have that channel iron sub-frame under the boiler barrel (actually back to the rear as well), that makes them "Independent mounted" (as opposed to side mounted, rear mounted, under mounted).

As a side note, since I've mentioned "under mounted", Avery undermounted engines are "under mounted" because the rear axle is under the firebox; not because the motor (engine proper) is under the boiler barrel.
Gary;)

[M Kerkvliet]

As a side note, since I've mentioned "under mounted", Avery undermounted engines are "under mounted" because the rear axle is under the firebox; not because the motor (engine proper) is under the boiler barrel.
Gary;)

Wow Gary... Thanks for that information! I did not know that. I thought it was because the engine was under the boiler.

One is never too old to learn something new!

BTW... Glad to see you posting again. I never got your PM because my inbox was full... just got a message that you had sent me one. I did reply explaining, but not sure if you got it or not.

[cjmlarson]

Gary , the Averys that I have seen that have the engine on top and the ones on the bottom of the barrel.... that does not change the title or name of the engine? I am with Mark on this I did not know that wasnt the difference in how they were identified.do they actually have a different name when the engine is on the bottom or the top?

[40avery]

I do not doubt Gary's information on how the axle is mounted making the engine an under mount, side mount, or top mount. That being said the Avery literature advertises their engines as "under mount engines" and "top mount engines" so I think that this is a case of both being semantically correct but with different meanings for different manufacturers.

Rick

[cjmlarson]

Thanks Rick, That is what I was always told also .I was at a MSEA meeting this past fall down by the Twin cities and saw a... I think it was a 16hp.and it had a top mount engine Avery.the story was very interesting,it was pulled from the river after being submerged for some 65 years.Last year was the first time it had steam on it. it took seven years to restore and they were able to use the original boiler,and they only lost if I remember right 7or 8 pounds.It was a great story!sorry I got off track a little.

[40avery]

That was an impressive salvage/restoration job. It is amazing. There is a thread I saw somewhere on the salvage efforts. it was huge!